1 00:00:10,970 --> 00:00:02,180 this is james randi and you're listening 2 00:00:13,850 --> 00:00:10,980 to the skeptic zone welcome to the 3 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:13,860 skeptic zone the podcast from Australia 4 00:00:32,389 --> 00:00:28,170 for science and reason yes it's a 5 00:00:37,130 --> 00:00:32,399 skeptic zone episode number 181 for the 6 00:00:40,729 --> 00:00:37,140 seventh of April 2012 Richard Saunders 7 00:00:43,090 --> 00:00:40,739 here with you from a very very pleasant 8 00:00:46,220 --> 00:00:43,100 Sydney Australia at this time of year 9 00:00:48,950 --> 00:00:46,230 coming up on today's show what a mixed 10 00:00:51,709 --> 00:00:48,960 bag what a mixed bag it is is that like 11 00:00:53,389 --> 00:00:51,719 Forrest Gump used to say life is like a 12 00:00:54,740 --> 00:00:53,399 box of chocolates you'll never know what 13 00:00:56,709 --> 00:00:54,750 you're going to get you never know what 14 00:01:00,139 --> 00:00:56,719 you're going to get on the skeptic zone 15 00:01:01,910 --> 00:01:00,149 but we've got a lot of field reports 16 00:01:04,579 --> 00:01:01,920 this week a lot of field reports but 17 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:04,589 kicking off King off I interview you 18 00:01:10,370 --> 00:01:06,450 Leah offer from the German skeptics 19 00:01:13,609 --> 00:01:10,380 about the forthcoming six world skeptics 20 00:01:15,410 --> 00:01:13,619 convention in Berlin and I was just 21 00:01:17,570 --> 00:01:15,420 looking at the website earlier and the 22 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:17,580 website will be mentioned in the 23 00:01:22,940 --> 00:01:20,250 interview soon what a lineup they have 24 00:01:24,859 --> 00:01:22,950 that's coming up in May in Berlin anyway 25 00:01:26,690 --> 00:01:24,869 find out all about that coming up at the 26 00:01:29,510 --> 00:01:26,700 top of the show when I interview you 27 00:01:32,030 --> 00:01:29,520 Leah offer and then after that it's a 28 00:01:35,590 --> 00:01:32,040 little report I did I recently 29 00:01:40,910 --> 00:01:35,600 discovered boxes and barrels of the 30 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:40,920 energy titanium I am titanium bracelet 31 00:01:48,710 --> 00:01:43,530 bit of rubber that used to be sold for 32 00:01:50,569 --> 00:01:48,720 4999 at a trash and treasure store so a 33 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:50,579 little on the scene report about that 34 00:01:56,209 --> 00:01:54,210 find a little later on in the show and 35 00:01:58,459 --> 00:01:56,219 following that it's Maynard spooky 36 00:02:01,969 --> 00:01:58,469 action very spooky we are not so spooky 37 00:02:05,389 --> 00:02:01,979 at skeptics in the pub in Sydney asking 38 00:02:07,399 --> 00:02:05,399 people why why they come to skeptics in 39 00:02:09,350 --> 00:02:07,409 the pub what brings them there what do 40 00:02:11,420 --> 00:02:09,360 they hope to find out lots of 41 00:02:13,850 --> 00:02:11,430 interesting little side interviews with 42 00:02:16,190 --> 00:02:13,860 people at the pub and I even turn the 43 00:02:19,130 --> 00:02:16,200 microphone on Maynard and interview him 44 00:02:21,710 --> 00:02:19,140 and after that I'm out in the field once 45 00:02:24,710 --> 00:02:21,720 again visiting the royal easter show 46 00:02:27,980 --> 00:02:24,720 here in sydney and giant show giant fair 47 00:02:31,490 --> 00:02:27,990 it's like a country fair but honor 48 00:02:34,430 --> 00:02:31,500 industrial scale i'm on the lookout for 49 00:02:37,430 --> 00:02:34,440 dodgy products and we do i find any 50 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:37,440 wandering around this massive show this 51 00:02:41,900 --> 00:02:39,570 massive fair do i find any find out 52 00:02:44,780 --> 00:02:41,910 later in the show and then to wind up 53 00:02:47,870 --> 00:02:44,790 the show any chair with a penny for your 54 00:02:51,050 --> 00:02:47,880 thoughts also at skeptics in the pub in 55 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:51,060 california at the University of 56 00:02:55,640 --> 00:02:53,610 California at Irvine I think that's the 57 00:02:58,220 --> 00:02:55,650 place the air teasers is that right 58 00:03:00,199 --> 00:02:58,230 brian dunning help me out yes I I'm sure 59 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:00,209 that's I'm sure that's right now this is 60 00:03:04,970 --> 00:03:01,650 a pretty light-hearted session where 61 00:03:07,790 --> 00:03:04,980 penny asks pub goers some interesting 62 00:03:09,410 --> 00:03:07,800 questions of about Australia about 63 00:03:12,020 --> 00:03:09,420 what's their knowledge of Australia I 64 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:12,030 wondered i wondered a group here in 65 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:14,450 australia of comedy team called the 66 00:03:19,370 --> 00:03:17,730 chaser a few years back put questions to 67 00:03:21,500 --> 00:03:19,380 americans and got some pretty funny 68 00:03:23,300 --> 00:03:21,510 answers what what are the questions they 69 00:03:25,250 --> 00:03:23,310 put was can you name the country 70 00:03:27,860 --> 00:03:25,260 starting with you now the obvious answer 71 00:03:29,570 --> 00:03:27,870 is united states of america because 72 00:03:31,340 --> 00:03:29,580 that's the country they're in I ask 73 00:03:36,949 --> 00:03:31,350 penny to ask that question to see 74 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:36,959 whether people knew it find out find out 75 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:38,970 for yourself at the end of the show now 76 00:03:43,039 --> 00:03:40,530 a couple of announcements before we get 77 00:03:46,340 --> 00:03:43,049 stuck into our first segment with Julia 78 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:46,350 offer we're almost there folks were 79 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:49,410 almost there in fact I am off to my 80 00:03:55,610 --> 00:03:53,010 Maynard's plane ticket very soon it for 81 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:55,620 Tam that's all has to happen I'm going 82 00:04:00,590 --> 00:03:57,930 to put up on ebay and you can see this 83 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:00,600 in the show notes some items for bid 84 00:04:07,220 --> 00:04:04,850 some men hard memorabilia what I have 85 00:04:10,759 --> 00:04:07,230 I've got which you can just hear going 86 00:04:13,490 --> 00:04:10,769 clunk Maynard's classics 95 to 2,000 87 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:13,500 adults ed set of maynards favorite songs 88 00:04:20,630 --> 00:04:17,010 we've got Maynard's dag quiz book 10 89 00:04:24,500 --> 00:04:20,640 Maynard's guide to dag those will be 90 00:04:26,870 --> 00:04:24,510 appearing on ebay soon all proceeds from 91 00:04:27,530 --> 00:04:26,880 those sales go directly to getting 92 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:27,540 meaner 93 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:29,610 over to town to buying that plane ticket 94 00:04:35,710 --> 00:04:33,450 and always as always thanks to those 95 00:04:38,180 --> 00:04:35,720 listeners who have helped along the way 96 00:04:40,790 --> 00:04:38,190 now if you want to help the skeptic zone 97 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:40,800 and help get Maynard to Tam well the 98 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:43,410 best way to do it is to simply subscribe 99 00:04:47,930 --> 00:04:45,810 for less than a dollar a week to the 100 00:04:50,180 --> 00:04:47,940 skeptic zone of course it's free if you 101 00:04:52,100 --> 00:04:50,190 don't wish to subscribe please enjoy the 102 00:04:54,290 --> 00:04:52,110 show anyway but if you do enjoy the show 103 00:04:56,570 --> 00:04:54,300 and you feel like you'd like to chip in 104 00:04:59,750 --> 00:04:56,580 less than a dollar a week is such a 105 00:05:01,700 --> 00:04:59,760 small amount but enough of you do it it 106 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:01,710 certainly means a lot to the skeptic 107 00:05:06,380 --> 00:05:03,690 zone and thank you to those people who 108 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:06,390 already do thank you so much it really 109 00:05:11,630 --> 00:05:09,330 does help now as you know a few weeks 110 00:05:14,210 --> 00:05:11,640 ago I was in the old brie would dongha 111 00:05:16,310 --> 00:05:14,220 area to launch soap with my good friend 112 00:05:18,410 --> 00:05:16,320 dr. Chrissy Wilson and the local 113 00:05:19,790 --> 00:05:18,420 skeptics there the borderline skeptics 114 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:19,800 were reminded me that they have a 115 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:22,770 skeptics in the pub in that area in fact 116 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:24,810 the next skeptics in the pub is at 117 00:05:32,090 --> 00:05:27,810 O'Malley's pub 36 high street wodonga on 118 00:05:34,310 --> 00:05:32,100 the tenth of April at 630pm so very soon 119 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:34,320 if you want to find out more you can 120 00:05:42,770 --> 00:05:38,730 email skeptics at wombat gully dot-com 121 00:05:45,860 --> 00:05:42,780 got a you so there you are borderline 122 00:05:48,500 --> 00:05:45,870 people are in the aubrey wodonga area 123 00:05:52,130 --> 00:05:48,510 there is a skeptics in the pub just for 124 00:05:55,130 --> 00:05:52,140 you and I was also contacted by London 125 00:05:59,180 --> 00:05:55,140 skeptics not London me okay london 126 00:06:00,410 --> 00:05:59,190 ontario canada and i'm sure i'm sure 127 00:06:02,810 --> 00:06:00,420 they'll be sending me a little blurb 128 00:06:04,340 --> 00:06:02,820 little add a little promo to play soon 129 00:06:07,430 --> 00:06:04,350 but in the meantime you can check them 130 00:06:11,270 --> 00:06:07,440 out on Facebook just search for London 131 00:06:13,670 --> 00:06:11,280 skeptics all right or it enough fair 132 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:13,680 enough enhancements for now I'm going to 133 00:06:22,340 --> 00:06:16,850 run downstairs and I'm going to enjoy a 134 00:06:25,010 --> 00:06:22,350 white chocolate martini why that's a 135 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:25,020 good cocktail I'll do that while you 136 00:06:56,430 --> 00:06:53,220 and joining me on the line on the skype 137 00:06:59,940 --> 00:06:56,440 line from hamburg in germany is yulia 138 00:07:01,980 --> 00:06:59,950 offer hallo Yulia hello it's really nice 139 00:07:05,100 --> 00:07:01,990 to talk with you some of my listeners 140 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:05,110 know I I lived in Germany for a while oh 141 00:07:12,570 --> 00:07:09,010 well 20 years ago in that's welder in 142 00:07:15,030 --> 00:07:12,580 canton kirkin augsburg hamburg hanover i 143 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:15,040 saw quite a lot of Germany so I really 144 00:07:20,130 --> 00:07:17,770 have a nice nice memories for Germany so 145 00:07:23,210 --> 00:07:20,140 I'm very interested to see that the 146 00:07:26,420 --> 00:07:23,220 sixth World skeptics Congress is 147 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:26,430 happening this year in germany in may 148 00:07:33,300 --> 00:07:29,050 can you tell me you Leah a little bit 149 00:07:36,890 --> 00:07:33,310 about why is it in Germany this year oh 150 00:07:39,990 --> 00:07:36,900 it's in Germany because um it has 151 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:40,000 because we have the 25th anniversary of 152 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:42,490 the German skeptics this year we were 153 00:07:47,700 --> 00:07:45,610 founded in nineteen eighty-seven ah well 154 00:07:49,650 --> 00:07:47,710 that makes sense yeah thatthat's finance 155 00:07:51,900 --> 00:07:49,660 it's interesting when I was when I used 156 00:07:54,420 --> 00:07:51,910 to live in Germany 20 years ago I wasn't 157 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:54,430 really into being a skeptic so I didn't 158 00:07:59,969 --> 00:07:56,890 even know the skeptics were there and 159 00:08:04,260 --> 00:07:59,979 how long have you been involved in the 160 00:08:08,550 --> 00:08:04,270 skeptics oh well in 1987 I was too young 161 00:08:10,650 --> 00:08:08,560 I was third child but I know I have been 162 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:10,660 involved for I think far as five years 163 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:13,450 now and what what do you find most 164 00:08:19,350 --> 00:08:15,970 interesting in in skepticism is it 165 00:08:21,719 --> 00:08:19,360 looking for ghosts or is it alternative 166 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:21,729 medicine or things like this you know 167 00:08:28,550 --> 00:08:24,970 got me interested was creationism 168 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:28,560 because four or five years ago we had a 169 00:08:35,219 --> 00:08:31,690 few problems with politicians who said 170 00:08:40,260 --> 00:08:35,229 well maybe we could teach creationism at 171 00:08:43,110 --> 00:08:40,270 schools maybe it's of course if not as 172 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:43,120 bad as in the US but you know there were 173 00:08:48,210 --> 00:08:45,730 some ideas and I thought oh we have to 174 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:48,220 be really careful about this since I'm a 175 00:08:52,950 --> 00:08:49,890 biologist and I was working in 176 00:08:54,990 --> 00:08:52,960 evolutionary biology at that time and I 177 00:08:55,810 --> 00:08:55,000 thought we really have to be very 178 00:09:00,070 --> 00:08:55,820 careful 179 00:09:02,470 --> 00:09:00,080 um they they can't get any further with 180 00:09:04,330 --> 00:09:02,480 you said yes well that's that's 181 00:09:07,150 --> 00:09:04,340 absolutely why I think a lot of people 182 00:09:09,100 --> 00:09:07,160 are originally get into skeptics they're 183 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:09,110 worried about things like this and I 184 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:10,730 know a lot of very good people in this 185 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:13,610 country are a concerned about 186 00:09:18,550 --> 00:09:15,890 creationism and of course all around the 187 00:09:21,490 --> 00:09:18,560 world we might even think of a good 188 00:09:23,230 --> 00:09:21,500 friend of the skeptical movement dr. 189 00:09:26,620 --> 00:09:23,240 Eugenie Scott in America who is very 190 00:09:31,930 --> 00:09:26,630 concerned about creationism but I was 191 00:09:35,260 --> 00:09:31,940 just gazing on your website for the the 192 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:35,270 whole the whole weekend and it's WWE 193 00:09:42,490 --> 00:09:40,010 World skeptics org and I see one of your 194 00:09:45,580 --> 00:09:42,500 speakers is Eugenie Scott that's 195 00:09:48,460 --> 00:09:45,590 fantastic that's right she's our first 196 00:09:52,750 --> 00:09:48,470 speaker since the first two sessions are 197 00:09:54,910 --> 00:09:52,760 concerned concerning creationism the 198 00:09:58,180 --> 00:09:54,920 first one is called creationism a 199 00:10:01,870 --> 00:09:58,190 challenge to science where Eugenie Scott 200 00:10:04,420 --> 00:10:01,880 and a german biologist named it McGrath 201 00:10:07,510 --> 00:10:04,430 will give their talks and the second one 202 00:10:12,460 --> 00:10:07,520 is corporation ism it's LOM because we 203 00:10:15,790 --> 00:10:12,470 also Germany we have a problem with 204 00:10:18,610 --> 00:10:15,800 creationism mainly in the Islamic part 205 00:10:21,660 --> 00:10:18,620 of the population so it's not we don't 206 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:21,670 ever have a big problem with 207 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:25,490 fundamentalist Christians but with the 208 00:10:31,150 --> 00:10:28,610 Islamic population they believe in 209 00:10:33,340 --> 00:10:31,160 creationism well wow that's really 210 00:10:35,020 --> 00:10:33,350 that's a really interesting topic and 211 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:35,030 I'm so pleased you've got somebody like 212 00:10:39,540 --> 00:10:37,370 a Eugenie Scott who I know who's a very 213 00:10:44,010 --> 00:10:39,550 dear friend of mine and I know how hard 214 00:10:46,930 --> 00:10:44,020 and tirelessly she works at fighting 215 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:46,940 creationism but well what a wonderful 216 00:10:52,150 --> 00:10:49,130 line up of speakers you have a good 217 00:10:54,490 --> 00:10:52,160 friend of skeptics in Australia Simon 218 00:10:57,700 --> 00:10:54,500 Singh is going to be there Massimo 219 00:11:00,940 --> 00:10:57,710 halidor Oh from Italy is going to be 220 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:00,950 there it's it's a ray hyman is going to 221 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:02,930 be there that's fantastic Harriet hall 222 00:11:08,970 --> 00:11:06,050 the list goes on and on and of course as 223 00:11:14,699 --> 00:11:08,980 I notice on the list James 224 00:11:18,689 --> 00:11:14,709 d yes yo I have a he'll give us talk on 225 00:11:20,879 --> 00:11:18,699 Sunday I'm actually not sure what it 226 00:11:26,370 --> 00:11:20,889 will be about because it's just called 227 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:26,380 Randy an amazing life so um I am really 228 00:11:31,199 --> 00:11:29,170 looking forward to that James Randi has 229 00:11:34,079 --> 00:11:31,209 been entertaining people all around the 230 00:11:36,379 --> 00:11:34,089 world for many years so I if I were you 231 00:11:39,750 --> 00:11:36,389 I would very much look forward to 232 00:11:43,139 --> 00:11:39,760 hearing James Randi now tell me where 233 00:11:47,490 --> 00:11:43,149 exactly in Berlin is the Congress being 234 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:47,500 held hotel it's called hotel crowne 235 00:11:52,290 --> 00:11:49,810 plaza i would just located right in the 236 00:11:54,509 --> 00:11:52,300 middle of berlin that's really 237 00:11:56,250 --> 00:11:54,519 convenient for everybody and Berlin is a 238 00:11:58,620 --> 00:11:56,260 lovely City and I'm sure you'll get many 239 00:12:00,710 --> 00:11:58,630 people who have never been to Berlin 240 00:12:04,680 --> 00:12:00,720 before coming along just because of the 241 00:12:09,420 --> 00:12:04,690 Congress it's not only a lovely City we 242 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:09,430 should go but it's also quite steep to 243 00:12:13,530 --> 00:12:11,050 stay there actually it's one of the 244 00:12:17,069 --> 00:12:13,540 least expensive cities in Germany so far 245 00:12:20,009 --> 00:12:17,079 for a big capital it's very inexpensive 246 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:20,019 to us you know the restaurants and the 247 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:22,569 hotels and so he might really consider 248 00:12:27,180 --> 00:12:24,970 to go there i I couldn't completely 249 00:12:30,059 --> 00:12:27,190 agree i haven't been to burn for many 250 00:12:32,970 --> 00:12:30,069 years of sadly but when i was there it 251 00:12:35,939 --> 00:12:32,980 was just just a magnificent city so full 252 00:12:39,509 --> 00:12:35,949 of history and art work and wonderful 253 00:12:41,819 --> 00:12:39,519 museums so and of course the famous our 254 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:41,829 zoo station i think it's called in the 255 00:12:48,300 --> 00:12:43,690 heart of Berlin and all sorts of things 256 00:12:50,189 --> 00:12:48,310 so i'm i'm very jealous if ben i was a 257 00:12:53,460 --> 00:12:50,199 snitch for all the people who are going 258 00:12:58,410 --> 00:12:53,470 to the Congress once again that website 259 00:13:01,500 --> 00:12:58,420 is ww-well skeptics org for all the 260 00:13:04,590 --> 00:13:01,510 information it's May eighteenth to 20th 261 00:13:06,540 --> 00:13:04,600 in Berlin run to that website now if 262 00:13:08,250 --> 00:13:06,550 you're in Europe with your in AmeriCorps 263 00:13:11,100 --> 00:13:08,260 if you're in Australia or your anywhere 264 00:13:12,870 --> 00:13:11,110 and check out some information maybe get 265 00:13:14,970 --> 00:13:12,880 your tickets well you Leah thank you 266 00:13:17,309 --> 00:13:14,980 very much for giving our listeners a 267 00:13:20,660 --> 00:13:17,319 little bit of insight into the Congress 268 00:13:34,970 --> 00:13:20,670 coming up and I wish you every success 269 00:13:37,790 --> 00:13:34,980 thank you very much by hand which by the 270 00:13:49,910 --> 00:13:37,800 way offers an indulgence epic on and on 271 00:13:51,860 --> 00:13:49,920 the internet site I vvv EVP arc hello 272 00:13:53,780 --> 00:13:51,870 I'm Finn I am co-host of the skipper 273 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:53,790 cons podcaster podcast from Dublin 274 00:13:58,100 --> 00:13:56,250 Ireland we look at things of a skeptical 275 00:14:02,180 --> 00:13:58,110 nature from an Irish point of view you 276 00:14:08,660 --> 00:14:02,190 can find us on WWF for coins com that's 277 00:14:10,130 --> 00:14:08,670 sk EP or e CH a UNS com please listen to 278 00:14:24,650 --> 00:14:10,140 us and give us some feedback we love 279 00:14:29,730 --> 00:14:27,780 I'm walking along Addison Road here in 280 00:14:33,150 --> 00:14:29,740 the Sydney suburb of marrickville and 281 00:14:36,180 --> 00:14:33,160 I've come to the Addison Road Center 282 00:14:39,150 --> 00:14:36,190 which is a sort of interesting little 283 00:14:41,940 --> 00:14:39,160 area I'm sure those people see in Sydney 284 00:14:48,210 --> 00:14:41,950 marrickville area know it well it's a 285 00:14:50,340 --> 00:14:48,220 sort of an artsy little community is a 286 00:14:53,519 --> 00:14:50,350 little theater here called the sidetrack 287 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:53,529 theater and they have crafty sort of 288 00:14:59,640 --> 00:14:56,050 things the market every week Fred fresh 289 00:15:01,740 --> 00:14:59,650 produce and things like that but the 290 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:01,750 reason I come here quite often is to 291 00:15:07,710 --> 00:15:05,050 have a look through the trash and 292 00:15:12,060 --> 00:15:07,720 treasure store here known as reverse 293 00:15:14,460 --> 00:15:12,070 garbage which over the years I have 294 00:15:18,170 --> 00:15:14,470 found some remarkable things and great 295 00:15:22,590 --> 00:15:18,180 little fun things I recently bought some 296 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:22,600 velvet little tiny velvet bags which I 297 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:25,570 think maybe he'll use for the test of a 298 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:27,490 psychic one day where you hide an object 299 00:15:33,900 --> 00:15:30,730 in a velvet bag so on there's all sorts 300 00:15:36,540 --> 00:15:33,910 of things here there's people going back 301 00:15:40,350 --> 00:15:36,550 and forth of ponies and just down the 302 00:15:43,470 --> 00:15:40,360 little little road here is my 303 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:43,480 destination reverse garbage reverse 304 00:15:49,890 --> 00:15:45,730 garbage of a big red building here and 305 00:15:51,930 --> 00:15:49,900 even walking into it now there are 306 00:15:53,940 --> 00:15:51,940 things everywhere bicycles and old 307 00:15:56,730 --> 00:15:53,950 chairs and tables and bits of furniture 308 00:16:02,300 --> 00:15:56,740 and big packing boxes and old white 309 00:16:04,710 --> 00:16:02,310 board it looks to be like kids toy 310 00:16:07,500 --> 00:16:04,720 lightsabers good heavens whole box full 311 00:16:10,290 --> 00:16:07,510 of those and we have some protective 312 00:16:14,070 --> 00:16:10,300 goggles here so now hold umbrellas let's 313 00:16:19,030 --> 00:16:16,480 so I've come into reverse garbage now 314 00:16:21,550 --> 00:16:19,040 the wonderful trash and treasure store 315 00:16:25,270 --> 00:16:21,560 what's this t-shirts for two dollars in 316 00:16:27,490 --> 00:16:25,280 this me old bags carry back from 317 00:16:31,150 --> 00:16:27,500 promotional gear coupla dollars I 318 00:16:36,530 --> 00:16:31,160 imagine we've got some padlocks toys for 319 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:38,840 lots of cords and cloths and books and 320 00:16:46,460 --> 00:16:42,450 old movies I'll super 8 off something 321 00:16:49,100 --> 00:16:46,470 big canisters of movies it's just never 322 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:49,110 ending where else do we have here more 323 00:17:00,640 --> 00:16:54,410 leather offcuts lots and lots of leather 324 00:17:03,050 --> 00:17:00,650 cotton wall mirrors fake telephones I 325 00:17:04,610 --> 00:17:03,060 love coming this place you never know 326 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:04,620 what you'll find there's a huge bucket 327 00:17:10,810 --> 00:17:07,050 here of quarks spoons an old typewriter 328 00:17:16,070 --> 00:17:10,820 I think you get I think you get the idea 329 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:16,080 but just outside on the entrance I find 330 00:17:27,170 --> 00:17:21,330 a giant bucket full wealthy titanium ion 331 00:17:29,420 --> 00:17:27,180 and n RG how about that what was once 49 332 00:17:31,820 --> 00:17:29,430 a 19-9 I know that because it's written 333 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:31,830 right on the band's themselves on the 334 00:17:44,710 --> 00:17:33,530 packaging 335 00:17:51,580 --> 00:17:46,510 oh yeah we really under the flight path 336 00:17:54,250 --> 00:17:51,590 anyway 4999 written the original price 337 00:17:57,700 --> 00:17:54,260 tag is still on they're selling them 338 00:18:03,000 --> 00:17:57,710 here now get rid of them for two dollars 339 00:18:07,750 --> 00:18:03,010 or even cheaper maybe so there you go 340 00:18:09,820 --> 00:18:07,760 what was once heralded as a new amazing 341 00:18:12,279 --> 00:18:09,830 breakthrough his another been over here 342 00:18:15,220 --> 00:18:12,289 good heavens thousands of them hundreds 343 00:18:18,010 --> 00:18:15,230 at least once was once heralded as an 344 00:18:22,210 --> 00:18:18,020 amazing breakthrough of technology is 345 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:22,220 now consigned to a trash and treasure 346 00:18:48,630 --> 00:18:27,650 store so may we say so ends all power 347 00:18:54,490 --> 00:18:52,210 scopes monkey choir scopes monkey choir 348 00:18:56,890 --> 00:18:54,500 wait are we acquire no one hun acquire 349 00:19:01,960 --> 00:18:56,900 but we are musicians when I monkeys 350 00:19:04,930 --> 00:19:01,970 either we are ready so what is scopes 351 00:19:07,210 --> 00:19:04,940 monkey choir it's podcast oh yeah it's 352 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:07,220 podcast it's the podcast where music and 353 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:10,250 sound meets science and skepticism we 354 00:19:13,630 --> 00:19:11,930 are two professional musicians who 355 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:13,640 decided to turn our skeptical eyes on 356 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:15,170 our own profession we look at the 357 00:19:19,750 --> 00:19:17,050 science of music we look at studies 358 00:19:22,060 --> 00:19:19,760 recent studies about music and sound we 359 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:22,070 look skeptically at musical myths we 360 00:19:28,690 --> 00:19:26,810 look at and we work out of our music 361 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:28,700 this is new asset Scopes Monkey choir 362 00:19:33,370 --> 00:19:31,370 calm I'll find us on iTunes scopes 363 00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:33,380 monkey choir the podcast for music and 364 00:19:47,870 --> 00:19:44,920 here's may not spooky action at the 365 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:50,220 and look I am here at skeptics in the 366 00:19:53,490 --> 00:19:51,250 pub now you can here's some background 367 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:53,500 noise at the moment because it is a 368 00:19:56,580 --> 00:19:54,970 little bit noisy they've swapped over 369 00:19:58,350 --> 00:19:56,590 their normal cocktail night for the 370 00:20:00,420 --> 00:19:58,360 skeptics night so we in here with a 371 00:20:01,620 --> 00:20:00,430 whole bunch of people showering and 372 00:20:03,030 --> 00:20:01,630 carrying around people who got 373 00:20:04,710 --> 00:20:03,040 lampshades on the head it's really going 374 00:20:06,810 --> 00:20:04,720 nuts but there are a few people here 375 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:06,820 that anuja skeptics in the pub and good 376 00:20:11,970 --> 00:20:09,130 evening to you know what's your name 377 00:20:15,570 --> 00:20:11,980 Kelly Kelly now what you decide to come 378 00:20:17,430 --> 00:20:15,580 along to the skeptics evening I'm fed up 379 00:20:21,780 --> 00:20:17,440 with hearing about leading your soul 380 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:21,790 mate and climate change you know a whole 381 00:20:28,380 --> 00:20:24,490 whole lot of topics that I hear about 382 00:20:33,060 --> 00:20:28,390 every day and I am very skeptical myself 383 00:20:34,770 --> 00:20:33,070 so came along to see if anybody else was 384 00:20:37,170 --> 00:20:34,780 something you know a great message with 385 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:37,180 me about my train of thought about 386 00:20:42,570 --> 00:20:40,930 culture issues ah could I sum it up by 387 00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:42,580 saying you suspect that someone may be 388 00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:43,840 trying to pull the wool over your eyes 389 00:20:49,980 --> 00:20:47,590 about something I feel that way all the 390 00:20:51,870 --> 00:20:49,990 time that we actually based our show 391 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:51,880 dirty disbelievers on that very much as 392 00:20:56,670 --> 00:20:54,970 well and it a bit ly many other people 393 00:20:59,120 --> 00:20:56,680 you expected was there more or less 394 00:21:04,790 --> 00:20:59,130 beards and you're expected hero 395 00:21:10,370 --> 00:21:04,800 every day people who are also watching 396 00:21:13,850 --> 00:21:10,380 to find out about certain alternative 397 00:21:18,530 --> 00:21:13,860 issues for example tonight you've got 398 00:21:20,180 --> 00:21:18,540 been supposed to yes whew and yes again 399 00:21:21,860 --> 00:21:20,190 and they have little hologram in them 400 00:21:23,090 --> 00:21:21,870 and as you can see due to some of the 401 00:21:24,890 --> 00:21:23,100 work some people have done here then our 402 00:21:29,420 --> 00:21:24,900 just character two dollars and I found 403 00:21:30,470 --> 00:21:29,430 out how to bend a spoon Oh No here are 404 00:21:35,570 --> 00:21:30,480 you gonna be trying that want the family 405 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:35,580 dinner table I or thank you for coming 406 00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:37,530 along and if there was a guest speaker 407 00:21:40,970 --> 00:21:39,120 heroes there someone who's talking on a 408 00:21:47,210 --> 00:21:40,980 topic is they one topic you'd beat us in 409 00:21:48,860 --> 00:21:47,220 hearing about doing because if you 410 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:48,870 believe in them or you don't they're 411 00:21:54,260 --> 00:21:52,170 both as I think Michael Sherman says are 412 00:21:56,030 --> 00:21:54,270 the big American skeptic they're a 413 00:21:58,790 --> 00:21:56,040 gateway drug to finding out about 414 00:22:02,030 --> 00:21:58,800 science one way or the other yes it'll 415 00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:02,040 be interesting about religious beliefs 416 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:05,280 as well yeah that's always a hotbed of 417 00:22:10,700 --> 00:22:06,930 controversy but it's always a good one 418 00:22:11,870 --> 00:22:10,710 to bring up I'll come again yeah look I 419 00:22:15,380 --> 00:22:11,880 hope to see you here again but it's a 420 00:22:16,610 --> 00:22:15,390 bit less noisy thank you and I'm over 421 00:22:19,130 --> 00:22:16,620 that's on the table now who we got here 422 00:22:22,250 --> 00:22:19,140 Yuki and your along here for the first 423 00:22:23,570 --> 00:22:22,260 time first time yes oh no I had you to 424 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:23,580 watch your side to come along tonight 425 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:26,010 I'll because one of my friends he has 426 00:22:30,500 --> 00:22:28,170 been here for three times and I thought 427 00:22:32,810 --> 00:22:30,510 this is interesting I want to know why 428 00:22:34,220 --> 00:22:32,820 is it so that's why I'm come along oh no 429 00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:34,230 what was it he mentioned to you that 430 00:22:37,940 --> 00:22:36,240 really got your interest oh if you say 431 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:37,950 that with they talk about different 432 00:22:43,780 --> 00:22:41,570 subjects you know so the sub J is 0 433 00:22:46,750 --> 00:22:43,790 listing to my know why is popular thing 434 00:22:47,860 --> 00:22:46,760 and why is the true white natural so is 435 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:47,870 there something you're particularly 436 00:22:51,370 --> 00:22:49,370 interested in some people are instant 437 00:22:52,660 --> 00:22:51,380 the paranormal some people like UFOs 438 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:52,670 some people are interested in the 439 00:22:57,610 --> 00:22:54,410 climate change issue is that anything or 440 00:23:00,910 --> 00:22:57,620 isn't it I am interesting in our health 441 00:23:03,670 --> 00:23:00,920 and fitness and and the rumors of myths 442 00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:03,680 that surround it yes yeah for sure for 443 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:05,360 sure I just want to know that what other 444 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:07,130 people's things and seems like 445 00:23:11,290 --> 00:23:08,890 everyone's here have a lot of knowledge 446 00:23:12,900 --> 00:23:11,300 they sure are you can usually find an 447 00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:12,910 expert on something in the room yeah 448 00:23:16,750 --> 00:23:15,200 that's what I want to come to here for 449 00:23:19,150 --> 00:23:16,760 well I hope you can see here again some 450 00:23:21,370 --> 00:23:19,160 time and some parts are noisy for sure 451 00:23:23,830 --> 00:23:21,380 so this is another typical meeting that 452 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:23,840 I you know it's normally there's no 453 00:23:27,190 --> 00:23:25,250 background music there's normally a 454 00:23:29,980 --> 00:23:27,200 speaker and there's normally more of us 455 00:23:31,660 --> 00:23:29,990 okay I do I have to come next time days 456 00:23:35,170 --> 00:23:31,670 yes I see in about a month's time for 457 00:23:36,670 --> 00:23:35,180 sure thank you and now we've got someone 458 00:23:37,870 --> 00:23:36,680 that's been a member for a while there's 459 00:23:39,850 --> 00:23:37,880 after their first time along and 460 00:23:42,670 --> 00:23:39,860 skeptics in the pub tonight what about 461 00:23:44,380 --> 00:23:42,680 why is this your first time well I got 462 00:23:46,030 --> 00:23:44,390 two kids so it's pretty hard to get away 463 00:23:47,770 --> 00:23:46,040 oh I don't think many people would 464 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:47,780 accuse you being slack because of that 465 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:50,330 yeah yeah but now they may need to come 466 00:23:53,860 --> 00:23:52,490 along for a long long time so yeah 467 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:53,870 thought I'd finally bite the bullet and 468 00:23:57,790 --> 00:23:55,610 come along we'll see you've come on a 469 00:24:00,610 --> 00:23:57,800 night that's very untypical it is it is 470 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:00,620 very atypical but I was happy to see her 471 00:24:04,210 --> 00:24:03,050 speech but it's okay I'd say in a 472 00:24:05,710 --> 00:24:04,220 month's time they'll be someone yeah 473 00:24:07,090 --> 00:24:05,720 well I've got a play to come along I've 474 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:07,100 actually been played you come along for 475 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:09,290 a long time and i'll i'll try and make 476 00:24:12,430 --> 00:24:10,850 it a bit more regular and now what 477 00:24:13,630 --> 00:24:12,440 issues interest you one of the kind of 478 00:24:15,910 --> 00:24:13,640 ones you'd like to see people talking 479 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:15,920 about here oh what's up everything 480 00:24:23,530 --> 00:24:20,090 skeptical I I think that is really good 481 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:23,540 job with the anti-vaccination people i 482 00:24:27,340 --> 00:24:26,090 was i was really good i think that sort 483 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:27,350 of stuff is really dangerous because it 484 00:24:32,650 --> 00:24:29,330 actually actually harms people it really 485 00:24:34,630 --> 00:24:32,660 could be really dangerous so I'm glad 486 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:34,640 that they are on top of a sort of stuff 487 00:24:38,020 --> 00:24:36,410 I mean though I always talk to people 488 00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:38,030 about what their favorite from movies 489 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:39,200 and I guess that would be your favorite 490 00:24:45,250 --> 00:24:43,490 yeah that homeopathy and conspiracy I 491 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:45,260 want all of it really all about how do 492 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:47,210 you go at work when someone starts 493 00:24:50,740 --> 00:24:48,650 reading their stars out or something 494 00:24:52,930 --> 00:24:50,750 like that in a workplace environment we 495 00:24:54,910 --> 00:24:52,940 talk about it's often difficult to say 496 00:24:56,500 --> 00:24:54,920 what you think yeah if you ought to bite 497 00:24:58,690 --> 00:24:56,510 your tongue sometimes but if how many 498 00:25:02,470 --> 00:24:58,700 people bring it up and they seem seem 499 00:25:04,180 --> 00:25:02,480 open and all alternatively they don't 500 00:25:06,550 --> 00:25:04,190 like steps towards yes you know it's all 501 00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:06,560 crap don't you good I always check my 502 00:25:10,150 --> 00:25:08,510 stars out because you know I mean you 503 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:10,160 never I mean as my astrologer friend 504 00:25:13,330 --> 00:25:11,570 Jessica Adams says they are supposed to 505 00:25:15,250 --> 00:25:13,340 be symbolic but I still don't understand 506 00:25:16,780 --> 00:25:15,260 them I don't see how one 12 of the 507 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:16,790 entire world could have the same things 508 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:20,690 happen to them on the same day good 509 00:25:26,590 --> 00:25:23,930 point good skeptical point yes or how 510 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:26,600 glad it's actually affect people with 511 00:25:30,850 --> 00:25:29,090 any way whatsoever and in depth and so 512 00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:30,860 that and anti-vaccination would be to 513 00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:32,240 interesting topics likely is someone 514 00:25:37,780 --> 00:25:34,510 talk on it yeah and add homeopathy 515 00:25:39,550 --> 00:25:37,790 hopefully i think is a really big source 516 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:39,560 of blue and I think that needs to be 517 00:25:42,670 --> 00:25:41,330 tackled especially since it seems me 518 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:42,680 creeping into all sorts of things like 519 00:25:48,370 --> 00:25:45,770 the chemists and even some doctors are 520 00:25:51,010 --> 00:25:48,380 in a sort of enjoyed our so it seems 521 00:25:52,510 --> 00:25:51,020 very strange that's the guy to see you 522 00:25:54,820 --> 00:25:52,520 next month for a dream yes that'd be 523 00:25:56,230 --> 00:25:54,830 great and look I'm also here with 524 00:25:57,460 --> 00:25:56,240 someone who has been along a few 525 00:25:59,850 --> 00:25:57,470 skeptics in the pub it's a very 526 00:26:02,560 --> 00:25:59,860 different one tonight is no it is indeed 527 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:02,570 being the celebration of Easter asst 528 00:26:06,670 --> 00:26:04,970 tomorrow we're not having a speaker in 529 00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:06,680 the normal sense we're just having a 530 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:09,200 get-together and what have you been 531 00:26:12,220 --> 00:26:10,850 chatting to people about is there but 532 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:12,230 skeptical topics have come up I just 533 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:14,090 heard someone talking about they were a 534 00:26:16,990 --> 00:26:15,650 bit of a climate-change skeptic there 535 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:17,000 and there's someone else that is over 536 00:26:20,020 --> 00:26:18,530 there what were you hearing the topics 537 00:26:22,210 --> 00:26:20,030 discussed tonight well apart from 538 00:26:24,340 --> 00:26:22,220 climate change some the alternative 539 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:24,350 medicine topic is hot at the moment 540 00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:26,450 banette particularly homeopathy or 541 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:28,640 another range or the teaching of it in 542 00:26:33,070 --> 00:26:31,730 institutions yes homeopathy and teach 543 00:26:35,409 --> 00:26:33,080 you about institutions also the question 544 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:35,419 of doctors and whether Chinese 545 00:26:39,850 --> 00:26:37,250 practitioners should be given the 546 00:26:41,289 --> 00:26:39,860 automatic title of doctor and it might 547 00:26:43,060 --> 00:26:41,299 be saved people do you think that 548 00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:43,070 sometimes they have a better political 549 00:26:47,140 --> 00:26:44,510 lobby and that's why they were able to 550 00:26:49,180 --> 00:26:47,150 get some of their their ideas through 551 00:26:51,070 --> 00:26:49,190 that would be with the traditional 552 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:51,080 Chinese medicine they always seem to get 553 00:26:54,820 --> 00:26:53,570 a smoother ride with their medicine and 554 00:26:55,870 --> 00:26:54,830 their acupuncture I'm just wondering if 555 00:26:58,539 --> 00:26:55,880 there's if they've got a really good 556 00:27:01,090 --> 00:26:58,549 lobby group well I think perhaps it's 557 00:27:02,980 --> 00:27:01,100 because Australia tries to be good to 558 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:02,990 immigrants that's one aspect of it we 559 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:04,730 try a little bit between a bit more 560 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:07,850 sympathetic the other thing though it's 561 00:27:13,539 --> 00:27:10,610 worth examining on it item by item basis 562 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:13,549 chinese medicine for example there are a 563 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:15,530 few types of chinese medicine that have 564 00:27:19,539 --> 00:27:17,450 been like turning to pills that are very 565 00:27:21,850 --> 00:27:19,549 i'm so high on a feeling that right now 566 00:27:24,159 --> 00:27:21,860 i can hardly talk all right it's a 567 00:27:26,169 --> 00:27:24,169 fantastic stuff you know I've done if 568 00:27:28,690 --> 00:27:26,179 it's legal I'm sure it is legal yeah you 569 00:27:31,630 --> 00:27:28,700 know that's one I know works exactly and 570 00:27:33,460 --> 00:27:31,640 so not to throw the whole discipline out 571 00:27:35,890 --> 00:27:33,470 that examine it bit by bit and see what 572 00:27:38,890 --> 00:27:35,900 of you know something's obviously work 573 00:27:41,140 --> 00:27:38,900 and some don't that's worth fishing but 574 00:27:44,049 --> 00:27:41,150 as you say homeopathy I don't think that 575 00:27:46,930 --> 00:27:44,059 any evidence has shown that to work 576 00:27:49,299 --> 00:27:46,940 about from the perceiver of things and 577 00:27:51,190 --> 00:27:49,309 it is the one that you seem a very calm 578 00:27:54,909 --> 00:27:51,200 rational person is there something will 579 00:27:56,260 --> 00:27:54,919 we red wine it's a it for you too is it 580 00:27:57,789 --> 00:27:56,270 one that really makes your blood boil 581 00:27:59,710 --> 00:27:57,799 very quickly i mean i always like 582 00:28:01,450 --> 00:27:59,720 talking about the whew that fires them 583 00:28:03,130 --> 00:28:01,460 up when you see it on the telly you get 584 00:28:05,529 --> 00:28:03,140 up and throw your brick at the screen 585 00:28:07,630 --> 00:28:05,539 lock with in terms of alternative 586 00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:07,640 medicine yes i just want to do anything 587 00:28:11,230 --> 00:28:09,049 here in particular it fires you up 588 00:28:13,299 --> 00:28:11,240 quicker than anything else what are the 589 00:28:14,510 --> 00:28:13,309 problems of from television as it fires 590 00:28:16,580 --> 00:28:14,520 me up 591 00:28:17,890 --> 00:28:16,590 particularly commercial television you 592 00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:17,900 know in the last three weeks who had 593 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:20,910 someone talking about the murray-darling 594 00:28:24,530 --> 00:28:22,770 basin how that might destroy our 595 00:28:26,330 --> 00:28:24,540 agriculture or not how we need to fix it 596 00:28:27,860 --> 00:28:26,340 and we've had years of climate change 597 00:28:30,260 --> 00:28:27,870 and there certain commercial television 598 00:28:32,300 --> 00:28:30,270 channels don't even give it coverage 599 00:28:34,820 --> 00:28:32,310 that's what fires me up the absence of 600 00:28:37,010 --> 00:28:34,830 stuff being thrown for the average man 601 00:28:38,780 --> 00:28:37,020 and woman to consider that's what's 602 00:28:41,870 --> 00:28:38,790 wrong with the place they'd rather talk 603 00:28:43,460 --> 00:28:41,880 about Beyonce or some person so you're 604 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:43,470 basically complaining about the absence 605 00:28:48,350 --> 00:28:45,810 of ideas full stop you know the absence 606 00:28:50,180 --> 00:28:48,360 of goodbyes dears being prevented to 607 00:28:52,340 --> 00:28:50,190 presented to the average man and woman 608 00:28:54,050 --> 00:28:52,350 to talk about it's just not on the 609 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:54,060 agenda it's not entertaining is not even 610 00:28:57,500 --> 00:28:55,530 presented well well do you think it 611 00:28:58,970 --> 00:28:57,510 might be sad that like they don't think 612 00:29:01,190 --> 00:28:58,980 that the average person is interested in 613 00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:01,200 that and they can't see a way of selling 614 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:02,910 ads on a show like that and that's a sad 615 00:29:09,620 --> 00:29:07,890 reality is if copies or they think it is 616 00:29:11,420 --> 00:29:09,630 but the show then again shows like the 617 00:29:15,170 --> 00:29:11,430 Mythbusters come along which is 618 00:29:16,850 --> 00:29:15,180 science-based yes would you say that's 619 00:29:17,930 --> 00:29:16,860 attacking any of those deep issues 620 00:29:22,220 --> 00:29:17,940 though I mean it's very entertaining 621 00:29:24,350 --> 00:29:22,230 lots of explosions yeah well it's it's 622 00:29:26,450 --> 00:29:24,360 trying to it's creating a nice way of 623 00:29:27,620 --> 00:29:26,460 thinking they always have a scientific 624 00:29:29,870 --> 00:29:27,630 approach to things with a lot of 625 00:29:32,540 --> 00:29:29,880 scientists I think I think they rush it 626 00:29:34,670 --> 00:29:32,550 a bit of course but it is TV I mean it's 627 00:29:36,910 --> 00:29:34,680 better than australia's next top model 628 00:29:39,220 --> 00:29:36,920 although then I was good-looking 629 00:29:41,770 --> 00:29:39,230 but it's in entertainment isn't it is 630 00:29:43,660 --> 00:29:41,780 not in and I guess that's true course 631 00:29:45,490 --> 00:29:43,670 lots of science shows in the UK now are 632 00:29:47,980 --> 00:29:45,500 being hosted by the guys from top gear 633 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:47,990 as well science shows I yes listen and 634 00:29:51,820 --> 00:29:49,450 that would be annoying people as well 635 00:29:54,070 --> 00:29:51,830 but there might be something in that 636 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:54,080 though and skeptics skeptics Australia 637 00:29:58,060 --> 00:29:55,610 for example a regular that if you can 638 00:30:00,490 --> 00:29:58,070 present sure in information truth was is 639 00:30:02,740 --> 00:30:00,500 in an entertaining manner and maybe top 640 00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:02,750 gear adjust the people to get science 641 00:30:07,390 --> 00:30:04,880 across that's right as long as you don't 642 00:30:08,890 --> 00:30:07,400 scare the advertisers by a same climate 643 00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:08,900 change is real of course that must be in 644 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:11,360 the back of their mind somewhere that's 645 00:30:16,350 --> 00:30:13,970 a very good point so you're obviously TV 646 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:16,360 producer with this kind of background no 647 00:30:20,020 --> 00:30:18,650 just a consumer I'm afraid not a 648 00:30:23,050 --> 00:30:20,030 producer there you're going to be long 649 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:23,060 here next month are you oh yes oh I look 650 00:30:26,290 --> 00:30:24,050 forward to seeing them and hopefully 651 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:26,300 it'll be a little bit quieter pardon 652 00:30:35,770 --> 00:30:32,410 what was that this is Richard Saunders 653 00:30:37,690 --> 00:30:35,780 sort of invading Maynard spooky action 654 00:30:39,190 --> 00:30:37,700 I've almost lost my voice because it's a 655 00:30:41,500 --> 00:30:39,200 noisy pub tonight and I've been speaking 656 00:30:43,060 --> 00:30:41,510 lots of people and one of the people 657 00:30:45,220 --> 00:30:43,070 here tonight is none other than well 658 00:30:46,390 --> 00:30:45,230 it's me not hello may not hello Richard 659 00:30:47,650 --> 00:30:46,400 I see you've got to be a trouble with 660 00:30:49,270 --> 00:30:47,660 your voice there and I've been talking 661 00:30:50,770 --> 00:30:49,280 to a lot of people at the bar mainly the 662 00:30:53,470 --> 00:30:50,780 ones with cash in their pockets to buy 663 00:30:55,510 --> 00:30:53,480 me some drinks good thinking main item 664 00:30:57,670 --> 00:30:55,520 before my voice conchs are completely 665 00:30:59,290 --> 00:30:57,680 white you come to skeptics in the public 666 00:31:01,510 --> 00:30:59,300 well I first came along because I 667 00:31:02,830 --> 00:31:01,520 believed I was going to see dr. rachey 668 00:31:05,980 --> 00:31:02,840 do some of her stuff from star wars 669 00:31:08,140 --> 00:31:05,990 burlesque show the first version but 670 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:08,150 sadly that wasn't the case and I'd there 671 00:31:11,590 --> 00:31:09,650 was some interesting speakers here and I 672 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:11,600 come along because I like to be exposed 673 00:31:15,070 --> 00:31:13,490 to these people at people's ideas as you 674 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:15,080 know from the day just believers I know 675 00:31:18,850 --> 00:31:17,330 I am skeptical but I love a bit of a 676 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:18,860 wheel as well now I'm trying to mix them 677 00:31:22,060 --> 00:31:20,330 up and I like talking to people about 678 00:31:23,410 --> 00:31:22,070 that kind of thing in an environment 679 00:31:24,940 --> 00:31:23,420 like this and it's very relaxed the 680 00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:24,950 skeptics in the pub has a bit of a 681 00:31:28,690 --> 00:31:27,110 dagger sound about it for some people 682 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:28,700 but it's not you just come along and you 683 00:31:32,090 --> 00:31:30,170 meet people with ideas and have a chat 684 00:31:34,250 --> 00:31:32,100 and what could be cooler than that 685 00:31:36,289 --> 00:31:34,260 I couldn't agree more mean it-it's a 686 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:36,299 national turnout tonight noisy in the 687 00:31:40,460 --> 00:31:38,250 old pub tonight but you know it's a pub 688 00:31:42,620 --> 00:31:40,470 sometime that that's just the way way it 689 00:31:44,690 --> 00:31:42,630 goes okay it is the way it goes and look 690 00:31:46,820 --> 00:31:44,700 I everyone come along next to the first 691 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:46,830 thursday of next month and meet a few 692 00:31:50,210 --> 00:31:48,570 people here and just have a bit of a 693 00:31:51,529 --> 00:31:50,220 chat no one has to agree you can have a 694 00:31:53,779 --> 00:31:51,539 bit of a discussion with someone in fact 695 00:31:56,180 --> 00:31:53,789 Phylly encourage that don't we well me 696 00:31:58,820 --> 00:31:56,190 night when I was in a Manchester 697 00:32:00,590 --> 00:31:58,830 recently for the QED convention people 698 00:32:03,020 --> 00:32:00,600 coming up and saying love the podcast 699 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:03,030 really enjoy Maynard segments so when 700 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:04,650 you come to the amazing reading in Las 701 00:32:09,140 --> 00:32:07,650 Vegas it'll be such fun for you to meet 702 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:09,150 the fans it'll be really great it's 703 00:32:12,020 --> 00:32:10,650 quite strangest that they look nothing 704 00:32:13,850 --> 00:32:12,030 have any the other career I've done with 705 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:13,860 any of the music or any other stuffs 706 00:32:17,390 --> 00:32:15,450 strange and timeless try and stuffs 707 00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:17,400 it'll be quite good doing that and I'd 708 00:32:21,289 --> 00:32:19,110 look also I'd like to put a quick plug 709 00:32:22,669 --> 00:32:21,299 in now for that we did an episode of the 710 00:32:24,980 --> 00:32:22,679 dirty disbelievers which is a show we 711 00:32:26,630 --> 00:32:24,990 did on the ABC over summer we did one 712 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:26,640 while you're away in Manchester we yes 713 00:32:31,460 --> 00:32:29,250 we did one is a geek the new black and 714 00:32:34,159 --> 00:32:31,470 we spoke to some Australian actor Tony 715 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:34,169 Toby trust love who was in outland on 716 00:32:38,390 --> 00:32:36,210 the ABC about is being geek the new 717 00:32:40,669 --> 00:32:38,400 black and and we solved that all age-old 718 00:32:44,450 --> 00:32:40,679 problem dr. ratio is handy for this and 719 00:32:46,549 --> 00:32:44,460 so is jay is Pablo but a cake now if you 720 00:32:48,020 --> 00:32:46,559 honestly I don't think it is well we 721 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:48,030 actually got the definition of it it's 722 00:32:51,740 --> 00:32:49,770 on the podcast the dirty disbelievers 723 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:51,750 episode number 7 it's on the front page 724 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:53,610 of maynard combat IE where you can go to 725 00:32:57,169 --> 00:32:56,010 itunes look for main art and dirtiest 726 00:32:59,180 --> 00:32:57,179 believers and you won't be on that 727 00:33:00,620 --> 00:32:59,190 episode or the next one the next one's 728 00:33:02,450 --> 00:33:00,630 even better it's actually titled 729 00:33:04,549 --> 00:33:02,460 everyone's getting more sex than me more 730 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:04,559 often you see what happens when I'm not 731 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:06,330 there you have a great show you we get 732 00:33:09,169 --> 00:33:07,770 we go up and go crazy but we're going to 733 00:33:10,580 --> 00:33:09,179 get you back for the next one and we 734 00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:10,590 will be doing some more even if the ABC 735 00:33:15,409 --> 00:33:12,809 can't find a timeslot for it at the 736 00:33:16,700 --> 00:33:15,419 moment well folks is you can hear it's 737 00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:16,710 really going off there are lots of 738 00:33:21,140 --> 00:33:19,289 skeptics very loudly chattering may not 739 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:21,150 I'll hand you back the microphone my 740 00:33:25,460 --> 00:33:23,730 voice is nearly gone but it's just it's 741 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:25,470 an indication of what a fun night it is 742 00:33:41,140 --> 00:33:27,690 it's time to pour Richard a drink and 743 00:33:46,430 --> 00:33:44,450 this is your own hey laura from sapphic 744 00:33:48,590 --> 00:33:46,440 severe The Skeptical podcast for he 745 00:33:53,540 --> 00:33:48,600 boosts pickles come listen to all things 746 00:34:19,480 --> 00:33:53,550 unholy in the holy language at WWF XE 747 00:34:26,139 --> 00:34:22,690 Sydney a spectacular royal east to show 748 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:26,149 the agricultural show the country fair 749 00:34:32,310 --> 00:34:29,450 that comes to the city expecting close 750 00:34:35,139 --> 00:34:32,320 to a million people to come here to the 751 00:34:37,930 --> 00:34:35,149 Olympic Park precinct over the next week 752 00:34:40,930 --> 00:34:37,940 or so I'm the one of the giant holes 753 00:34:43,629 --> 00:34:40,940 here full of exhibitions and things to 754 00:34:45,220 --> 00:34:43,639 see lots of people selling stuff what's 755 00:34:49,180 --> 00:34:45,230 a weed stuff I'm passing through some 756 00:34:51,690 --> 00:34:49,190 furniture and spa baths hmm outside 757 00:34:53,859 --> 00:34:51,700 sparse a better tell brian dunning but 758 00:34:57,550 --> 00:34:53,869 apart from that it's a lot of fun here 759 00:35:00,790 --> 00:34:57,560 the Easter Show but I normally find 760 00:35:04,090 --> 00:35:00,800 somewhere along the way push for the 761 00:35:06,180 --> 00:35:04,100 cardia it there are so many people 762 00:35:10,810 --> 00:35:06,190 selling so many things that is usually 763 00:35:15,010 --> 00:35:10,820 usually some were to be had some dodgy 764 00:35:17,470 --> 00:35:15,020 product some questionable things being 765 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:17,480 sold so I'm going to wander around now 766 00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:21,530 and see what I can find see if I can 767 00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:30,190 I must say it's good to see the the 768 00:35:39,809 --> 00:35:32,569 stand here of our New South Wales Police 769 00:35:42,190 --> 00:35:39,819 Force 150 years it says 1862 2012 and 770 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:42,200 lots of kids milling around getting 771 00:35:47,410 --> 00:35:45,010 tattoos and stickers of things and also 772 00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:47,420 using a metal detector in a big pile of 773 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:50,510 sand there you go detective work and 774 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:52,450 signs in action helping the police 775 00:35:58,720 --> 00:35:56,290 unlike psychic speaking of psychic 776 00:36:01,120 --> 00:35:58,730 keeping it psychic I think if I just 777 00:36:04,539 --> 00:36:01,130 walk down here the way past the many 778 00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:04,549 avenues and corners and shop selling 779 00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:08,240 hats I think I spotted a standard with 780 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:10,400 some psychic side I better go and have a 781 00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:15,049 here's a little tip for you would be 782 00:36:20,059 --> 00:36:17,910 reporters and podcasters out there if 783 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:20,069 you walk around with a microphone 784 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:22,410 speaking into it you saw the stand out a 785 00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:24,930 bit and that if you use a phone that 786 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:27,089 records he can hold it up you to your 787 00:36:34,539 --> 00:36:30,210 ear speak away and everybody thinks 788 00:36:45,140 --> 00:36:39,859 okay first bit of woo it is chiropractic 789 00:36:47,630 --> 00:36:45,150 I think free pasta checks yeah they've 790 00:36:49,099 --> 00:36:47,640 got the typical chiropractic thing as 791 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:49,109 you stand on the scales and they got 792 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:50,850 their little 793 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:54,090 string framework that they'll measure 794 00:36:58,970 --> 00:36:56,850 your balance everything free pasta check 795 00:37:02,390 --> 00:36:58,980 why suffer headaches and migraines back 796 00:37:07,610 --> 00:37:02,400 pain neck pain shoulder pain pain in the 797 00:37:09,590 --> 00:37:07,620 wallet they can cure that too ok just 798 00:37:14,510 --> 00:37:09,600 past even more sparse what is it about 799 00:37:19,460 --> 00:37:14,520 sparse past some cookware a massage 800 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:19,470 tables vacuum air lock bags Ken's pain 801 00:37:28,570 --> 00:37:24,450 relief Ken's pain relief credible weeks 802 00:37:31,060 --> 00:37:28,580 you whoo and well whew and basically 803 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:31,070 because I've got a foot chart there with 804 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:34,890 reflexology points there's people 805 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:36,450 sitting here on chairs and they got 806 00:37:42,830 --> 00:37:39,570 their feet on these devices and lots 807 00:37:44,810 --> 00:37:42,840 little lights and numbers worried as if 808 00:37:48,650 --> 00:37:44,820 they're actually doing something there 809 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:48,660 you go another bit of woo here believes 810 00:37:56,620 --> 00:37:50,490 arthritis pain it says will leaves 811 00:38:05,830 --> 00:38:00,040 ah but just opposite we have email mu 812 00:38:08,430 --> 00:38:05,840 natural emu oil which also seems to be 813 00:38:11,410 --> 00:38:08,440 used for arthritis and pain to sunburn 814 00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:11,420 sprains and bones and sex x x no 815 00:38:20,350 --> 00:38:13,730 wrinkles bruising skin repair sunspots 816 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:20,360 or feet thickens hair and anti-aging in 817 00:38:27,250 --> 00:38:23,690 the oil folks quick when you can't find 818 00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:27,260 any snakes now I'm passingly far 819 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:31,820 infrared saunas are infrared saunas it's 820 00:38:37,870 --> 00:38:34,850 a sauna without being a sauna really it 821 00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:37,880 says it's health and beauty for life 822 00:38:43,330 --> 00:38:40,250 there we go horrible cheap to run 823 00:38:47,630 --> 00:38:43,340 lifetime warranty far infrared sauna 824 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:47,640 sounds like something from Star Trek 825 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:50,010 I'm a little bit disappointed in years 826 00:38:56,810 --> 00:38:54,290 gone past last few years they've had 827 00:39:01,010 --> 00:38:56,820 companies selling power saving devices 828 00:39:03,050 --> 00:39:01,020 stuff so you plug into your home 829 00:39:05,780 --> 00:39:03,060 electricity and cut your power bills by 830 00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:05,790 fifty percent or whatever it is it's 831 00:39:09,950 --> 00:39:07,110 actually hoping to see them again this 832 00:39:11,930 --> 00:39:09,960 year to have a word with them but I 833 00:39:19,340 --> 00:39:11,940 don't think they're here anymore what a 834 00:39:23,060 --> 00:39:19,350 pity they avoided her it's joyce and 835 00:39:25,610 --> 00:39:23,070 rose psychics there they go a little 836 00:39:28,330 --> 00:39:25,620 booth here people lined up their tarot 837 00:39:31,550 --> 00:39:28,340 cards usual absolutely stock standard 838 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:31,560 usual stuff I might look at them for a 839 00:39:41,590 --> 00:39:38,490 second hello reader numerology a mystery 840 00:39:43,970 --> 00:39:41,600 photo reading whatever that is yeah 841 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:43,980 twenty-five dollars for 15 minutes worth 842 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:45,690 of reading I think I'm in the wrong 843 00:39:53,970 --> 00:39:50,609 next on our checklist we have single 844 00:39:56,730 --> 00:39:53,980 ball symbol an ancient wisdoms symbols 845 00:39:58,740 --> 00:39:56,740 originated in the Himalayas over 2,000 846 00:40:00,809 --> 00:39:58,750 years ago these ancient musical 847 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:00,819 instruments are used for dot dot dot 848 00:40:09,269 --> 00:40:04,450 meditation sound healing cleansing 849 00:40:13,170 --> 00:40:09,279 crystals manifestation what cleaning 850 00:40:16,109 --> 00:40:13,180 homes of negative energies stress relief 851 00:40:19,700 --> 00:40:16,119 reiki your cleansing food and water 852 00:40:22,470 --> 00:40:19,710 chakra balance musical compositions 853 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:22,480 cleansing food and water now that's a 854 00:40:33,420 --> 00:40:29,970 pretty amazing plain wwc Bolcom a you 855 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:33,430 may be when you bang them together they 856 00:40:40,829 --> 00:40:38,170 make the sound one and here's an oldie 857 00:40:43,349 --> 00:40:40,839 but a goodie under the stand of shower 858 00:40:45,180 --> 00:40:43,359 power where they're selling little 859 00:40:49,859 --> 00:40:45,190 robots to clean the floor but they're 860 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:49,869 also selling nature's power ball better 861 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:53,410 cleaning powder than deodorant they look 862 00:41:00,610 --> 00:40:56,570 like just 863 00:41:05,290 --> 00:41:00,620 funny shaped weird the serrated spheres 864 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:05,300 with stones or something in them which 865 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:07,370 apparently replace your laundry 866 00:41:14,190 --> 00:41:11,690 detergent and they are flying off the 867 00:41:16,540 --> 00:41:14,200 shelves they just flying off the shelves 868 00:41:19,110 --> 00:41:16,550 this is something i think the skeptics 869 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:19,120 might be investigating bit further I 870 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:24,290 think so just a little personal note no 871 00:41:27,820 --> 00:41:25,850 as I discovered there are many stand 872 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:27,830 stores here selling what I would think 873 00:41:35,290 --> 00:41:33,410 would be questionable things the desire 874 00:41:37,900 --> 00:41:35,300 the temptation is to go up to each up 875 00:41:39,730 --> 00:41:37,910 one of them start to argue or stop 876 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:39,740 people from purchasing things they don't 877 00:41:43,930 --> 00:41:41,450 buy this product it obviously doesn't 878 00:41:47,099 --> 00:41:43,940 work and when I pass of course people 879 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:47,109 are handing out their money right 880 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:49,690 in my experience this is where you have 881 00:41:54,269 --> 00:41:52,450 to just bite your tongue click 882 00:41:57,900 --> 00:41:54,279 information see what they're doing and 883 00:42:01,950 --> 00:41:57,910 then try to act on other ways to the 884 00:42:04,140 --> 00:42:01,960 authorities or whatever but arguing and 885 00:42:06,930 --> 00:42:04,150 remonstrating on the spot I mean is 886 00:42:08,370 --> 00:42:06,940 usually counterproductive they're not 887 00:42:11,039 --> 00:42:08,380 going to change their mind just because 888 00:42:15,329 --> 00:42:11,049 you've come along and said stop selling 889 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:15,339 this it could create a scene although 890 00:42:20,309 --> 00:42:18,970 it's sometimes temptation doesn't get 891 00:42:23,970 --> 00:42:20,319 the better of me and I'll start a little 892 00:42:27,329 --> 00:42:23,980 argument but by and large it just 893 00:42:29,279 --> 00:42:27,339 doesn't really work I wish it did maybe 894 00:42:33,299 --> 00:42:29,289 in another universe it does but not miss 895 00:42:37,170 --> 00:42:33,309 universe so we we find out what we can 896 00:42:40,019 --> 00:42:37,180 and then think of other ways to to 897 00:42:43,140 --> 00:42:40,029 progress against the worst example of 898 00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:43,150 that would be through the power balance 899 00:42:49,650 --> 00:42:47,920 or the energy wristband where the 900 00:42:53,109 --> 00:42:49,660 skeptics wrote an open letter to the 901 00:43:07,610 --> 00:42:53,119 company and things progressed from there 902 00:43:15,350 --> 00:43:10,280 no dear listener I have not snuck into 903 00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:15,360 hell made a recording i'm at the poultry 904 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:19,200 pavilion of these to share here remind 905 00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:21,690 you an hour or two of this and i think i 906 00:43:35,109 --> 00:43:32,530 well it's been a long day here these two 907 00:43:38,259 --> 00:43:35,119 show with great fun great 908 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:38,269 animals to see and writes the lookout 909 00:43:43,690 --> 00:43:40,970 and you're brave enough go on the rides 910 00:43:46,420 --> 00:43:43,700 are suppose lots of people here from the 911 00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:46,430 country it's a major event on this 912 00:43:50,799 --> 00:43:48,400 should be calendar the wall Easter Show 913 00:43:53,259 --> 00:43:50,809 sadly there's still similar to be had 914 00:43:56,319 --> 00:43:53,269 but you know what there's not one 915 00:43:58,450 --> 00:43:56,329 example of a power band with all those 916 00:44:02,829 --> 00:43:58,460 tricks like our balance leak and all the 917 00:44:22,269 --> 00:44:02,839 rest of not one hold on and so it's time 918 00:44:28,810 --> 00:44:22,279 to make my way up and head for her in a 919 00:44:37,150 --> 00:44:32,290 your messages are received for beyond 920 00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:40,480 and reason is sidelined for magical 921 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:45,580 oh please read their stand between the 922 00:44:54,010 --> 00:44:52,610 truth what date is it 787 thing this is 923 00:44:55,690 --> 00:44:54,020 impressive it's beating our system 924 00:44:58,330 --> 00:44:55,700 present they're not their photographs of 925 00:45:00,310 --> 00:44:58,340 Chinese anthem it's not we are not 926 00:45:02,170 --> 00:45:00,320 well-received ask is a good guard we're 927 00:45:04,060 --> 00:45:02,180 fully don't discuss cryptozoology on the 928 00:45:06,130 --> 00:45:04,070 show very often because we don't know 929 00:45:07,930 --> 00:45:06,140 anything about how the truth the price 930 00:45:09,820 --> 00:45:07,940 gets lower and lower and lower and then 931 00:45:14,380 --> 00:45:09,830 he hits a ceiling it's a ceiling for the 932 00:45:16,570 --> 00:45:14,390 room below skeptic to the cave and moses 933 00:45:34,260 --> 00:45:16,580 has gifted society find us on iTunes or 934 00:45:46,890 --> 00:45:37,029 is penny Chen 935 00:45:52,539 --> 00:45:48,880 this is penny for your thoughts 936 00:45:55,700 --> 00:45:52,549 reporting live from UC Irvine at the 937 00:46:01,849 --> 00:45:57,829 i thought i'd ask a few people a few 938 00:46:04,940 --> 00:46:01,859 questions what's your name my name is 939 00:46:16,660 --> 00:46:04,950 Brent Merle and what is the capital of 940 00:46:23,079 --> 00:46:21,400 it's not Sydney that's close it's if you 941 00:46:27,849 --> 00:46:23,089 don't know you I don't know it off the 942 00:46:30,420 --> 00:46:27,859 top of my head okay where else yeah okay 943 00:46:34,059 --> 00:46:30,430 that's right most people don't know um 944 00:46:38,650 --> 00:46:34,069 would do you think that Australian 945 00:46:43,660 --> 00:46:38,660 people eat kangaroo burgers absolutely 946 00:46:45,780 --> 00:46:43,670 would you eat one yes okay so you got a 947 00:46:48,940 --> 00:46:45,790 wide palette I like that how's that Oh 948 00:46:50,740 --> 00:46:48,950 besides her grey and Uganda can you 949 00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:50,750 think of any other countries that start 950 00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:56,089 with you uzbekistan any others I guess 951 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:00,880 not okay um oh yeah if you saw a ghost 952 00:47:07,630 --> 00:47:03,290 how can you be sure that it's not an 953 00:47:13,359 --> 00:47:07,640 alien using a cloaking device there's a 954 00:47:15,069 --> 00:47:13,369 trick question there's no ghosts okay so 955 00:47:17,890 --> 00:47:15,079 this is a very existentialist dancer I 956 00:47:21,190 --> 00:47:17,900 like that okay okay what's your name 957 00:47:23,349 --> 00:47:21,200 Tony Lee divin cool and what is the 958 00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:23,359 capital of Australia is it Sydney 959 00:47:30,069 --> 00:47:27,710 Australia okay um would you eat a 960 00:47:32,740 --> 00:47:30,079 kangaroo burger absolutely i love 961 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:32,750 kangaroo have you tried it no but I bet 962 00:47:39,730 --> 00:47:37,490 it would be delicious ok cool aside from 963 00:47:44,020 --> 00:47:39,740 Uruguay and Uganda can you think of any 964 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:44,030 other countries that start with you the 965 00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:45,530 Ukraine is not a country so I don't 966 00:47:52,270 --> 00:47:46,880 guess that would work as an answer would 967 00:47:54,789 --> 00:47:52,280 it okay with in the Ukraine and that's 968 00:47:58,569 --> 00:47:54,799 the only one I know okay okay final 969 00:48:00,819 --> 00:47:58,579 question if you saw a ghost how could 970 00:48:03,910 --> 00:48:00,829 you be sure that it's not an alien using 971 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:03,920 a cloaking device well you can't see a 972 00:48:09,940 --> 00:48:06,970 ghost because they're invisible correct 973 00:48:12,910 --> 00:48:09,950 yeah unless it's Casper and then he's 974 00:48:14,740 --> 00:48:12,920 friendly well in order to find out 975 00:48:17,319 --> 00:48:14,750 whether he was an alien or a ghost I 976 00:48:20,739 --> 00:48:17,329 asked him if he's died already 977 00:48:23,620 --> 00:48:20,749 okay cool okay well thank you your local 978 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:23,630 okay and what's your name Alan Thomas 979 00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:27,170 warden um and what is the capital of 980 00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:31,569 australia sydney i guess yep definitely 981 00:48:37,269 --> 00:48:34,640 okay would you eat a cat kangaroo burger 982 00:48:39,729 --> 00:48:37,279 Oh most definitely okay cook a lot of 983 00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:39,739 guys say definitely yeah a lot of girls 984 00:48:45,339 --> 00:48:43,609 are like no it's a cute little net never 985 00:48:47,140 --> 00:48:45,349 can't kangaroos are my favorite animal 986 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:47,150 they're so adorable and cute like me too 987 00:48:55,029 --> 00:48:49,729 so I did a kangaroo burger would you 988 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:55,039 really yes yeah okay um aside from 989 00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:56,930 Uruguay in Uganda what are the countries 990 00:49:03,660 --> 00:48:58,130 can you think of it start with you 991 00:49:08,650 --> 00:49:07,390 okay final question if you saw a ghost 992 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:08,660 how could you be sure that's not an 993 00:49:14,349 --> 00:49:11,930 alien using a cloaking device if it's 994 00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:14,359 got ectoplasmic goo dripping from him I 995 00:49:19,150 --> 00:49:16,400 know it goes but if he's just got like a 996 00:49:21,370 --> 00:49:19,160 little slime trail I'm gonna have to say 997 00:49:24,209 --> 00:49:21,380 it would be it would be an alien yep 998 00:49:27,579 --> 00:49:24,219 most definitely that's hard okay 999 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:27,589 criteria so what's your name Carol 1000 00:49:35,289 --> 00:49:29,930 Brannigan what's the capital of 1001 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:35,299 australia melbourne um do you think that 1002 00:49:42,759 --> 00:49:39,729 Australian people eat kangaroo burgers I 1003 00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:42,769 think they do actually but would you I 1004 00:49:51,339 --> 00:49:46,640 try one yeah that's good open-minded yes 1005 00:49:53,349 --> 00:49:51,349 um aside from Uganda and Uruguay can you 1006 00:49:57,420 --> 00:49:53,359 think of other countries that start with 1007 00:50:05,980 --> 00:50:01,660 uzbekistan okay like is that a real 1008 00:50:11,290 --> 00:50:05,990 country ok good answer take it up in my 1009 00:50:13,570 --> 00:50:11,300 head answer um if you saw a ghost how do 1010 00:50:16,270 --> 00:50:13,580 you know how would how would you know 1011 00:50:20,830 --> 00:50:16,280 that it's not an alien using a cloaking 1012 00:50:22,450 --> 00:50:20,840 device I I don't think I would know the 1013 00:50:24,970 --> 00:50:22,460 difference and I would probably be 1014 00:50:26,860 --> 00:50:24,980 dubious of either okay that's an 1015 00:50:29,020 --> 00:50:26,870 interesting answer thank you for talking 1016 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:29,030 to me now what's your name my name is 1017 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:32,930 Matthew what is the capital of Australia 1018 00:50:41,530 --> 00:50:37,850 it's Canberra are you from Canberra no 1019 00:50:43,180 --> 00:50:41,540 I'm not very London oh gosh I couldn't I 1020 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:43,190 didn't hear you talk enough but I I knew 1021 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:46,130 you had an accent ok I'm sorry I'm 1022 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:47,930 terrible with accents ok that was 1023 00:50:53,590 --> 00:50:50,450 embarrassing for me would you eat a 1024 00:50:55,810 --> 00:50:53,600 kangaroo burger I probably would yes 1025 00:50:58,030 --> 00:50:55,820 that's good um have you ever been to 1026 00:50:59,980 --> 00:50:58,040 Australia I've never been to Australia 1027 00:51:04,180 --> 00:50:59,990 but I've been to Earls Court which is 1028 00:51:05,950 --> 00:51:04,190 the same thing where is it in london in 1029 00:51:08,110 --> 00:51:05,960 west london there's a place called earls 1030 00:51:10,750 --> 00:51:08,120 court and everybody there is australian 1031 00:51:15,250 --> 00:51:10,760 really i had no idea thank you that was 1032 00:51:18,010 --> 00:51:15,260 enlightening Wow aside from her Glee and 1033 00:51:20,260 --> 00:51:18,020 Uganda what other countries start with 1034 00:51:23,140 --> 00:51:20,270 you that you can think of I've already 1035 00:51:24,330 --> 00:51:23,150 said of abdus Pakistan yeah I've got to 1036 00:51:30,330 --> 00:51:24,340 think of something else other than 1037 00:51:37,450 --> 00:51:30,340 Uzbekistan um what country are you from 1038 00:51:40,780 --> 00:51:37,460 I'm from England United Kingdom oh my 1039 00:51:44,590 --> 00:51:40,790 god nobody's getting me united united 1040 00:51:48,490 --> 00:51:44,600 kingdom yeah okay thank you so sad if 1041 00:51:52,630 --> 00:51:48,500 you didn't get that country though it is 1042 00:51:54,730 --> 00:51:52,640 it is kind of it was England's a country 1043 00:51:58,810 --> 00:51:54,740 but yeah you're not see kingdom yeah it 1044 00:52:01,290 --> 00:51:58,820 i do just studies yes my country though 1045 00:52:04,140 --> 00:52:01,300 why not yet it is the country 1046 00:52:08,070 --> 00:52:04,150 what is it if it's not a country alright 1047 00:52:10,230 --> 00:52:08,080 last question if you saw a ghost how can 1048 00:52:13,140 --> 00:52:10,240 you be sure that it was not an alien 1049 00:52:17,660 --> 00:52:13,150 using a cloaking device I really 1050 00:52:20,550 --> 00:52:17,670 wouldn't be sure ok yeah ok yeah 1051 00:52:24,090 --> 00:52:20,560 evidence wouldn't i am but evidence 1052 00:52:28,140 --> 00:52:24,100 evidence beautiful beautiful thank you 1053 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:28,150 thank you for talking to me both of you 1054 00:52:38,340 --> 00:52:35,050 you're both lovely ok what's your name I 1055 00:52:41,790 --> 00:52:38,350 Christopher Oxford ER and what is the 1056 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:41,800 capital of Australia rock and Berra 1057 00:52:48,090 --> 00:52:44,530 thank you I have hope for Humanity now 1058 00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:48,100 thank you okay um do you think that 1059 00:52:56,309 --> 00:52:53,440 Australian people eat kangaroo burgers 1060 00:53:00,990 --> 00:52:56,319 probably not very often would you eat a 1061 00:53:05,359 --> 00:53:01,000 kangaroo burger why not it can so you'd 1062 00:53:08,220 --> 00:53:05,369 you're open to if you ever saw a ghost 1063 00:53:12,690 --> 00:53:08,230 how could you be sure that it is not an 1064 00:53:14,970 --> 00:53:12,700 alien using a cloaking device now we're 1065 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:14,980 thought about the classroom I will win 1066 00:53:24,079 --> 00:53:20,650 now welcome back to you on that okay now 1067 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:24,089 what is your name I'm Sean Oxford and 1068 00:53:30,660 --> 00:53:27,210 what is the capital of Australia 1069 00:53:34,579 --> 00:53:30,670 Canberra not fair you heard him say 1070 00:53:39,450 --> 00:53:34,589 whatever did you know that before I 1071 00:53:42,059 --> 00:53:39,460 think I did but I don't know okay 1072 00:53:46,020 --> 00:53:42,069 because you're more cluded than I am 1073 00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:46,030 about that okay do you think that 1074 00:53:52,140 --> 00:53:48,089 Australian people eat kangaroo burgers 1075 00:53:55,410 --> 00:53:52,150 I'm sure somebody does would you eat a 1076 00:53:58,319 --> 00:53:55,420 kangaroo burger ah why not try things 1077 00:54:01,920 --> 00:53:58,329 once good answer I like that you're 1078 00:54:03,780 --> 00:54:01,930 open-minded okay if you ever saw a ghost 1079 00:54:07,980 --> 00:54:03,790 how could you be sure that it's not an 1080 00:54:09,930 --> 00:54:07,990 alien using a cloaking device seeing as 1081 00:54:15,540 --> 00:54:09,940 I've never seen alien I'm not too sure 1082 00:54:18,990 --> 00:54:15,550 how I know what's your name Diane and Oh 1083 00:54:20,700 --> 00:54:19,000 what's the capital of Australia I don't 1084 00:54:25,740 --> 00:54:20,710 know 1085 00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:25,750 Sydney okay um what would you eat a 1086 00:54:31,950 --> 00:54:29,280 kangaroo burger no I wouldn't why not I 1087 00:54:35,010 --> 00:54:31,960 would feel weird eating you even though 1088 00:54:37,650 --> 00:54:35,020 Australians eat kangaroo burgers I would 1089 00:54:41,370 --> 00:54:37,660 yeah you would knowing that they do ok 1090 00:54:43,020 --> 00:54:41,380 cool aside from Uruguay and Uganda can 1091 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:43,030 you think of any other countries start 1092 00:54:53,130 --> 00:54:49,050 with you you know I can't think about it 1093 00:54:57,930 --> 00:54:53,140 ukraine okay ukraine works um okay and 1094 00:54:59,430 --> 00:54:57,940 final question if you saw a ghost how 1095 00:55:04,710 --> 00:54:59,440 can you be sure that's not an alien 1096 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:04,720 using a cloaking device i have no idea i 1097 00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:08,290 guess it would be my um go through my 1098 00:55:13,170 --> 00:55:10,960 instincts my gut instinct that it goes i 1099 00:55:25,490 --> 00:55:13,180 guess okay all right thank you for 1100 00:55:30,270 --> 00:55:28,350 this is desiree shell a host of Canadian 1101 00:55:42,069 --> 00:55:30,280 radio shows skeptically speaking in 1102 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:45,109 and give a listening to the skeptic zone 1103 00:55:50,150 --> 00:55:47,970 what an interesting show that was so 1104 00:55:52,609 --> 00:55:50,160 many field reports I enjoy that doing 1105 00:55:54,799 --> 00:55:52,619 those field reports now quick reminder 1106 00:55:57,289 --> 00:55:54,809 for those people in the sydney area the 1107 00:55:59,900 --> 00:55:57,299 sydney region and a bit further afield 1108 00:56:02,450 --> 00:55:59,910 the mystery investigators a show I've 1109 00:56:04,249 --> 00:56:02,460 been taking part in now for almost ten 1110 00:56:06,620 --> 00:56:04,259 years it's a show that brings science 1111 00:56:09,349 --> 00:56:06,630 and skepticism and critical thinking to 1112 00:56:12,049 --> 00:56:09,359 schools high schools especially with a 1113 00:56:14,180 --> 00:56:12,059 40 minute to one hour show we do spoon 1114 00:56:16,069 --> 00:56:14,190 bending we have a bed of nails we talk 1115 00:56:17,870 --> 00:56:16,079 about fire walking talking to the dead 1116 00:56:20,569 --> 00:56:17,880 we show how power balance and all those 1117 00:56:22,130 --> 00:56:20,579 sort of tricks work interactive show 1118 00:56:25,519 --> 00:56:22,140 with students covering lots of 1119 00:56:27,049 --> 00:56:25,529 scientific areas if you want to find out 1120 00:56:30,940 --> 00:56:27,059 more if you're a teacher in the sydney 1121 00:56:36,019 --> 00:56:30,950 area just go to ww emma story 1122 00:56:38,329 --> 00:56:36,029 investigators calm it's a great show at 1123 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:38,339 currently the team the lineup is dr. 1124 00:56:42,769 --> 00:56:40,890 Rachel and myself and we really love 1125 00:56:45,109 --> 00:56:42,779 getting out there and performing for 1126 00:56:47,499 --> 00:56:45,119 schools and interested groups critical 1127 00:56:52,609 --> 00:56:47,509 thinking with the mystery investigators 1128 00:56:54,410 --> 00:56:52,619 www mystery investigators calm and don't 1129 00:56:57,980 --> 00:56:54,420 forget if you have a skeptics in the pub 1130 00:57:00,710 --> 00:56:57,990 in your area and you want more people to 1131 00:57:05,029 --> 00:57:00,720 find out drop me a line I'm better still 1132 00:57:07,220 --> 00:57:05,039 drop me a 30 second mp3 talking about 1133 00:57:09,740 --> 00:57:07,230 where your skeptics in the pub is and 1134 00:57:11,509 --> 00:57:09,750 how people get their time and dates and 1135 00:57:14,749 --> 00:57:11,519 locations that sort of stuff and I'll 1136 00:57:16,700 --> 00:57:14,759 see if I can play that but for this week 1137 00:57:18,740 --> 00:57:16,710 anyway and I think I might have another 1138 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:18,750 chocolate martini this is Richard 1139 00:57:25,550 --> 00:57:20,970 Saunders signing off from Sydney 1140 00:57:32,660 --> 00:57:27,710 you've been listening to the skeptic 1141 00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:32,670 zone visit our website at www skeptic